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Re: SCA-water maken

Geplaatst: vr 24 jun 2022, 18:48
door fransg
Ik kwam nog een blog tegen van een deskundige die ik persoonlijk zeer hoog aansla ;-)
Compromise
So here as elsewhere in the world the “best” way is a compromise: enough minerals to extract good coffee, enough also to create a thin protective skin of sediment on the inside of boiler and pipes but not too many minerals because they clog up the machine, especially the finest tubes, and not too few because ultra low minerals numbers can create aggressive water that eats away at the metal in the machine, ruining both the machine and the coffee.

Generally you can say that water that is rich in minerals will give the cup more body. The downside however is that fewer of the fine aromas and flavours will come out.


The same beans can extract very differently with identical machines if the water used is very different, so it is always good to be aware of the local water quality.Ronny discussed a number of filtration methods:
https://kostverlorenvaart.blogspot.com/ ... f-box.html

Re: SCA-water maken

Geplaatst: vr 24 jun 2022, 19:03
door ErikW
Goed Frans!
Die hebben we lang niet gezien hier: die wijze "grijze"'. ;)

Re: SCA-water maken

Geplaatst: vr 24 jun 2022, 19:50
door gilleko B.
fransg schreef:Ik zou weleens Volvic waterflessen willen kopen en die proberen.
In NL. moeilijk te krijgen.

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Re: SCA-water maken

Geplaatst: vr 24 jun 2022, 20:09
door bobbee

Re: SCA-water maken

Geplaatst: vr 24 jun 2022, 20:54
door fransg
gilleko B. schreef: vr 24 jun 2022, 19:50
fransg schreef:Ik zou weleens Volvic waterflessen willen kopen en die proberen.
In NL. moeilijk te krijgen.

Re: SCA-water maken

Geplaatst: za 25 jun 2022, 10:04
door fuel
bobbee schreef: vr 24 jun 2022, 20:09 Kennen jullie dit niet?

https://www.bol.com/nl/p/aquacode-coffe ... 0095351536
Nee mar ik zal me er eens in verdiepen en eventueel testen.
Stuk van Frans ga ik ook lezen. Leuk.

Jonathan Gagne heeft er volgens mij ook veel over geschreven. https://coffeeadastra.com/

Re: SCA-water maken

Geplaatst: za 25 jun 2022, 12:02
door fransg
gilleko B. schreef: vr 24 jun 2022, 19:50 In NL. moeilijk te krijgen.
16 liter besteld bij https://www.lyreco.com

Re: SCA-water maken

Geplaatst: za 25 jun 2022, 15:51
door ErikW
Mooi verhaal van Jonathan.
Hij heeft met BWT dus zijn water te veel beïnvloed.
Meten is dus wel het devies!
Hij waarschuwt voor TDS meters (ook als je bij 25 graden meet) maar geeft helaas geen alternatief.
Het CDS principe en 2 concentraten staat er dus ook in.
Zo gek is mijn verhaal dus ook weer niet! ;)

Wie weet een goede TDS-meter of bruikbaar alternatief. :?:

Gedestilleerd water maak ik al,
De hardheid druppels moet ik nog halen.
Heb een TDS-meter waar ik maar even me moet doen.

Mijn gedachten over haalbaarheid/bewaarbaarheid zijn wel bevestigd met Jonathan's blog. :!:

Re: SCA-water maken

Geplaatst: za 25 jun 2022, 16:07
door ErikW
Even wat informatie over TDS fouten bij Mettler/Toledo opgehaald.

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Re: SCA-water maken

Geplaatst: za 25 jun 2022, 16:07
door fransg
mijn watermeetsetje: